Every single facet you could think of, he's been the best.". Heres something you dont see every day. There must be more to this story. I expect hell be successful at LSU and continue there or at other elite college programs for as long as he wants. If he is successful down there, next he can run for the US Senate. His leadership, insight, creativity, and ability to effectively work across a diverse team were hallmarks of his time with the Minnesota Twins. Twins generate a lot more revenue than LSU and they obviously value a premiere coach more than a MLB team does, which is alarming, but not surprising. What does it say about the Twins that LSU would pay him DOUBLE what a Major League Team will pay? Maki, in fact, was hired by the Twins from Duke University, where he was pitching coach. LSU baseball pitching coach Wes Johnson, who was hired on Monday, has signed a three-year term sheet worth $1.14 million. Sheeeeeeeet Id go mostly anywhere for $750k. Certainly not a lateral move. Must miss the college game. Keep in mind that college athletic programs are a major selling point to Alumni Departments when asking for donations. Heck, TJ surgery has moved from an epidemic to an acceptable standard practice. All rights reserved. DETAILS BELOW. Johnson said this was "the toughest thing" he's ever done. As mentioned earlier, the teams pitching was better under Johnson, especially his first two years in Minnesota. With the Twins, and any professional organization, it's more of a collective effort. It's unmatched. Are college kids taught to hit endless foul balls and to get the pitchers out of the game, so that their coaches have the kids put more and more stress on their shoulders / arms / forearms/ and wrists as they have to create more movement to miss bats? The value of a marginal win on the free agent market for players has been discussed for years now, and while marginal win value isnt linear for an individual player (a 0 win to 1 win delta for a player has less value than a 3 win to 4 win delta, for example) and depends on each individual teams situation, we can comfortably say that a marginal win is going to be valued at somewhere from $5 to $10 million. If you know how to pitch, you dont need to throw everything at 100mph, and you dont blow out your arm. Usually, though, coaches are let go, discarded as teams struggle, but Minnesota's a first-place club with an above-average pitching staff that now has to adjust on the fly. That doesnt appear to be what happened, though. To reverse course and head back to the college ranks for an assistant role is similarly unprecedented, especially given the timing and lack of warning. Johnson flew back with the team to Minnesota. An extra 400k a year and less miles pressure. Leaving the Minnesota Twins, who reportedly had Johnson on a salary near $400,000, he now has the chance to eclipse that figure with postseason incentives. What makes this interesting is Johnson leaving a Twins team, who is first in the AL Central, for relatively the same money. As you know if you followed the CBA negoations this offseason, minimum salaries for major league players was a big source of contention in striking a new deal. It will be interesting to see if this is part of an evolving trend. Uh, free market capitalism and a good lawyer would make that difficult. I keep thinking about the LSU pitcher from a couple of years ago who hit nukes in high school. Is there a team out there that doesnt have at least 2 pitchers out for the season? I do let Wes take control and set up a plan for each one of our guys. In that regard, Johnson was something of a forerunner to this trend, as he was an early adopter of Trackman technology even at the college level. Im MLB I ban any college from talking to coaches during season. Unfortunately, the team has to deal with bigger news, a coaching shakeup that hasnt been seen in decades: the departure of Pitching Coach Wes Johnson to become the new pitching coach at Louisiana State University. Johnson left his position asthe Minnesota Twins pitching coach to come to Baton Rouge. I would not let him go in midseason, unless his contract allows him to break it for college. Arizona offered Yeskie a contract over $650,000 annually, including better job security than MLB franchises are willing to provide. Unaware of the shocking news that was coming 24 hours later, Twins right-hander Chris Archer praised Johnson after throwing five shutout innings Saturday against the Rockies, saying Johnsons coaching and support have played a huge role in his improved health and return to effectiveness after several years wrecked by career-threatening injuries. Music doesn't thump after losses, especially on getaway day. Do you think hitters should just concede their at bat so pitchers do not have to throw so many pitches? The Twins, meanwhile, will begin the second half of their season without their talented pitching whisperer, trying to maintain their playoff positioning. This just shows how much he must hate the Twins or Minnesota. The collegiate season begins in February and runs until mid-June. Theres often a lot movement between professional and college baseball.just maybe not this newsworthy and high profile. He was seen as one of the better pitching coaches in baseball, and his impact on the Minnesota Twins staff was evident to just about everyone. Maybe youre biased but youre not wrong. Ya know, the people who actually do what colleges are supposed to do? Johnson made no request to the Twins for a raise in salary, according to sources. Theyre not even paying a key coach half of what the MLB minimum is for a player. The athletic department is strong, and pretty self-sufficient in all sports. The college coach makes $400,000 more then the same position in MLB? "I got pretty choked up when I came out and got that hug for the last time. Wes Johnson is headed to LSU to be their new pitching coach. TIGERS HIRE WES JOHNSON:LSU baseball hires Minnesota Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson for same role with Tigers. Im going to say that Im 100% biased about this decision because I went to LSU, and have lived purple and gold for the past 50 years. Still, questions about how much Wes is getting paid with LSU could go down in history as a mystery because even at The Athletic, where all of this reporting is taking place, they have no idea how much hes really making. Its actually in the MLB rules the reason to play the game is to win and what gives you the best chance of winning TOP PITCHING you want a championship Get 2 Ace pitchers and some offense.. and every season youll have a shot at a world series why because pitching wins post season games.. Many on board the flight were still unaware of the news when the team landed in Cleveland at 8:30 p.m. I would suspect there are some kind of family issues at the root of this move. Good for that dude. During that same time, the Twins made more than 2x what all of LSU athletics did (football being the cash cow). Why spend a bunch when youve got fans that are buffoons like yourself. he was asked. Like a former NFL coach going back to coach in NCAA, recruits want to play for a coach with MLB experience even if its a little. It was updated, @stevep-4. most-competitive league in the world, yet Johnson was only making $350K several years into his gig. Johnson is in his fourth season with the Twins, but has previous SEC ties he worked as a pitching coach at Mississippi State and at Arkansas before joining Minnesota in November 2018. It purely comes down to my family. And I'm like, 'I don't know. If this is unethical what would you call pitching in the 1990s and earlier? The LSU pitching coach makes $750,000 a year. I was responding to another person on why this move came mid mlb season. The pitching has been a reason behind the Twins 41-33 record, and rise to first place in the AL Central. WebAs of 2022, Wesley Johnsons net worth is $100,000 - $1M. Seems weird, because its mid-season MLB, and the odd nature of the hire. Sure, Johnson has family in the south and life as a pitching coach in the NCAA may be less-taxing too. He made $400,000 w/ #MNTwins this season.When asked about package, Johnson: I cant comment on that., "My family is above the game of baseball The Twins are a great organization this place is awesome. Hard to find much on his Bio but he does have a son. His former coach responded with a screenshot of a tweet from college baseball reporter Kendall Rogers: Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson was leaving for the same position at LSU. 750k to be a college pitching coach? Major League pitchers are doing on disabled lists at an epidemic rate. Are you talking about Wes? Its not a lot of time considering it might involve housing, and dealing with personal family matters. It is flat out ridiculous that a college team can outbid a MLB club for coaching talent. That info wasnt there when the person posted their reply. While a Twins source said pay and resources were not an issue in Johnson leaving, a coach leaving the majors for a college gig does put into question how MLB Johnson has spent the last four seasons with the #Twins and marks a blockbuster hire for Jay Johnson. "There is the question of not just listing out things you need to do, it's how you do it, how you talk about it, how a player prefers to be prepared for what he's doing," Baldelli said. Well, in case of the University of Arizona, they fired hundreds of faculty and staffers under the disguise of the pandemic while the athletic director had his salary bumped by 50%, from $500,000 to $750,000. Multiple industry sources said total compensatory package potentially in Neal: Winners in Correa deal? "You don't ever hear anybody on their deathbed going, 'Man, I wish I'd have stuck it out to see if we'd won 101 and not done what's right for my family.'". I can certainly see why youd think this would burn a bridge; but, also consider the move couldve been mutually acceptable, or he left for personal reasons not discussed in the article, but the organization is aware, therefore it wouldnt have any impact. It does create some juggling," Falvey said. This is an all-around stunning move. I'm never going to get those out of whack.". He said he preferred to go now and not wait. The LSU athletic department does not use public funding. Its easier to let the deep pockets of college baseball boosters poach members of the staff rather than overpay for coaches that rarely last more than a couple of seasons. Good luck Wes! Its not surprising that he is going back to the SEC, especially when you consider he will get more money, have less travel, and be closer to home. Two springs ago, Johnson brought force plates, which are more popular in golf, to the Twins' spring training complex and had pitchers throw off them to better understand how their kinetic chains were functioning. LSU baseball hires Minnesota Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson for same role with Tigers. As they rumbled along to the runway, Morse asked about the rumor. "I'm throwing two pitches now that I never threw before with the splitter and a new slider," Pagan said. Not that it matters, since it seems like a pitching coach at a good college program can make much more than in the MLB. That offsets any loses and brings in a lot of money. LSU baseball pitching coach Wes Johnson, who was hired on Monday, has signed a three-year term sheet worth $1.14 million. Well, yeah, but I think this is a step down, right? The WNBA will head north for a preseason game in Canada. Why would Johnson leave MLB to go back to college baseball? Its actually hire time for NCAA. He said he'll "100%" stay in touch with pitchers and coaches the rest of the season. One current big-league coach guessed that average compensation for big-league hitting coaches was around $285,000 while pitching coaches earned an average of $325,000, which would put Johnsons salary from the Twins on the high end of the big-league scale[.]. Johnson didn't have a chance between Sunday's game and flight to properly inform the team before the news leaked. Twins, their players, Correa. DanHayesMLB (@DanHayesMLB) June 26, 2022. Kind of going over things and making sure that every step of preparation is in line.". Going one step further: MLB is burning out their pitchers. They won two division titles in Johnsons first three seasons, and are in a solid position to make another division title run this year. Nowadays college position coaches make way more money at the big programs than their pro ball counterparts. Guys are taught how to throw harder, not how to pitch. The fact that major league coaches make a fraction of what even the lowest-paid major league player makes speaks volumes to me at least about how major league organizations value coaches. The Twins saw a massive jump in strikeout rate, and Johnson was doing some of his best work this season. Why not? Earlier this week, news broke that Wes Johnson, the well-regarded pitching coach for the Minnesota Twins, was leaving the Twins to become the new pitching coach for LSU. It's my family, two. ", For Smeltzer, the loss is more about personality and communication. Simultaneously, the head coach of the womens basketball program, the schools biggest money loser, got her salary more than doubled from $500,000 to over $1.1 million. The plan is for Johnson to stick around with the Twins through their upcoming five-game series against the Cleveland Guardians, and leave for LSU after June 30. While the offseason is likely filled with recruiting trips and watching some of his own players play in summer leagues, it doesnt match the 162-game grind of an MLB season. Mlb pitching coaches dont make much. Prior to his time in MLB, Johnson was the pitching coach at Arkansas for two seasons and at Mississippi State for a year. But then, when an employee decides to go it is best to let them do so. In the end, you only live 1 life so if I can get paid double what I am currently making, Id take it too. Id take a demotion if it meant I was making over double the money. Minnesotas pitching staff ranked in the 20s in team ERA during Derek Falvey and Thad Levines first two seasons. The Twins were reportedly paying $400,000 a year for Johnsons services, a number thats in line with what a lot of college pitching coaches make. It doesnt make this a normal situation, and it has the Twins looking for a new pitching coach. He read the first tweet on his timeline twice. Players were shocked. Also from Hayes, talks between the Twins and Johnson were more about what might make [the] job more appealing to Johnson, and he didnt ask the club for more money. I give credit to Wes for helping turn a lot of meh Twins pitchers into pretty okay Twins pitchers. Send this article to anyone, no subscription is necessary to view it. "We want to be respectful to everyone in the room, talk to different people, different staff members. Starting pitching was seen as a big question mark for the Twins heading into 2022, but the club has weathered another set of injuries to post strong-to-respectable numbers in several categories. Im sure he has considered that and decided that he much prefers to pursue the rest of his career in an elite college program. While a few players made their way to the back of the plane to address Johnson - shortstop Carlos Correa was the first to do so - team officials waited until they reached the team hotel to have a proper meeting. Hes worked with Johnson for the last two years since he was promoted to the Major League staff, and its likely that Maki will be given the interim tag going forward. Plus his pitching staffs, while rarely given top talent, have performed well, currently ranking 11th in ERA among 30 MLB teams. There was never anywhere close to the number of pitching injuries we routinely see and accept each year. 13 in ERA. We wish him and his family all the best during his next stop at LSU.. Im sure the cocaine had nothing to do with ruining his career. Wes is really good about that. From Sarris/Buchanan: No source contacted for this article knew of any pitching coaches who made [$750,000] in the big leagues. And that makes Johnsons move rather remarkable. You dont see a lot of NCAA mens baseball coaches with MLB coaching experience, so thats going to look good to recruits. In fact, that booster is probably encouraging him to do so. 7 among AL teams in ERA, including No. A plush NCAA job would offer a LOT of incentive for an individual. You make a lot of sense! Johnsons recommendations were sure to play a vital role. Just interesting because of the unusual nature of an active MLB pitching coach being involved. talks between the Twins and Johnson were more about what might make [the] job more appealing to Johnson, and he didnt ask the club for more money. Now the staff will have to look to assistant pitching coach Pete Maki, whos set to take over for Johnson. Twins reliever Emilio Pagan said Johnson quickly helped him add two pitches after he arrived via an Opening Day trade. In many ways they are to college baseball what KU, Duke, North Carolina, etc are to college basketball. Doesnt sound like its known what his status is for the rest of the season. Given the sudden nature of Johnsons departure, the Twins are perhaps more apt to wait until after the season to hire a permanent replacement. It's my family, two. The situation there is akin to the Yankees or Dodgers not making the playoffs for 5 straight years. The Twins COULD have held onto his services until the expiration of his contract. Just would not allow him to walk! Which would seem to indicate that, well, coaches arent seen as that important, are seen as largely interchangeable. Lol calling your own comment a clown comment. Hes just really happy for me. Or Greg Maddux for that matter. And it's baseball, three. SoxFan24: Yeah, that surprised me. Someoldguy your precisely why mlb owners should all spend less on talent. Major league coaches particularly a hitting or pitching coach generally arent going to jump ship mid-season. Leading the division without an ace is actually a sign that he was doing a good job. The Twins Are Still Two Steps Away From Contending, Carlos Correa Is Saying All The Right Things. LSU is a perennial top 15 college baseball program, in the top baseball conference in the country. The Minnesota Twins must make a midseason change to a vital role on their field staff, with the sudden departure of pitching coach Wes Johnson for a lucrative college job at LSU. Twins must want some prospect(s) from that college. Follow us for breaking news and latest updates: was leaving the organization for Louisiana State University, worth double what he was making with the Twins. Webhow are the united states and spain similar. ", He added: "The biggest adjustment by far is going to be his loss of energy. 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There also is the appeal of working with younger pitchers. "I tell people my priorities. The minimum salary for an MLB player was $570,500 in 2021, while under the new CBA, the minimum salary is now $700,000. LSU had courted Johnson last season as well. Term sheet for Chris Archer and other players raved about his ability: Chris Archer has been very open about the impact Wes Johnson has had on him in these few months. Theyll be highly ranked and a potential favorite next season. College and MLB seasons don't really track together as college play just Johnson will join Jay Johnsons coaching staff at LSU, who, again are not currently playing baseball since the college baseball season just ended. Try a week on us. The first-place Minnesota Twins are losing their pitching coach Wes Johnson to LSU, where hes set to serve in the same role, according to Baseball America. 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